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Old 12th April 2005, 8:17am   #1
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Is porn good for society? / Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1986869.stm (Is porn good for society?)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4435193.stm (Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies)
Is porn good for society? / wonder what bill hicks would make of this...Labour, the UK's governing party, is being partly funded by a porn magnate. The revelation has outraged many, but MP and feminist Glenda Jackson sees no reason to object. He's the publisher behind some of Britain's best selling top shelf titles, including Forty and Over, All Girl Action and Horny Housewives, and he's also a generous Labour Party donor.

News that millionaire tycoon Richard Desmond, who is also chief executive of Express Newspapers, donated £100,000 to the party has provoked a chorus of protest from many of its supporters.

Labour MP Alice Mahon when she said: "What Richard Desmond does is exploit women and that's not what the Labour Party is about."

But her colleague Glenda Jackson, a feminist, believes his money is as good since porn provides a useful service.

"If people need this kind of product surely it's better that it's available to them rather than they have to exercise their desires in a criminal way."

And with that defence she re-opened an age-old can of worms.

Glenda Jackson says porn is necessary

In the eyes of Ms Jackson, porn is a morally defensible industry since it helps stop men raping women (and therefore taking money from the porn industry is OK).

There has certainly never been a more sympathetic climate for Ms Jackson's argument. Porn seems to be more widely acceptable than ever.

Thanks to video and the internet, the porn industry in the US is estimated to be worth $10bn a year. Porn revenues are bigger than Hollywood's domestic box-office receipts.

In the UK, hardcore pornography can be bought legally on video, following a landmark ruling by film censors in 2000. At around the same time, extensive consultation by the British Board of Film Classification found the vast majority thought adults have the right to see explicit sex if they wish to.

"The only thing pornography is known to cause is the solitary act of masturbation" - Gore Vidal

Yet anti-porn campaigners have lost none of their zeal. Porn, they say, exploits and degrades women. Women in porn are portrayed as objects rather then people with feelings and opinions of their own.

"Each inch of nakedness is an inch of worthlessness and lack of social protection," says feminist anti-porn campaigner Andrea Dworkin.

Rather than protect women, as Glenda Jackson believes, porn incites men to commit violent sexual acts. As activist Robin Morgan famously proclaimed: "Pornography is the theory and rape is the practice."

Catharsis theory

The theory that "porn = rape" was dismissed in the US by the presidential Johnson Committee report in 1970. But 16 years later, the Reagan-appointed Meese Commission found "substantial exposure to sexually violent materials... bears a causal relationship to antisocial acts of sexual violence".

Good for profits: Playboy's Hugh Hefner

Ms Jackson's view that porn is good for society is more than just hunch. In academic circles her theory is known as "catharsis".

Its supporters point to places such as Scandinavia and Japan, where liberal attitudes to pornography go hand in hand with low rates of sexual crime against women.

The "Danish experience" is often held up as good example.

In 1969 Denmark lifted all restrictions on pornography, and sex crimes declined. For example, between 1965 and 1982 sex crimes against children went from 30 per 100,000 to about 5 per 100,000. Similar evidence was found for rape rates.

Cinema first

Anti-porn activists say the true picture is more complicated and other factors are at force in those countries. So it seems the "porn is good/porn is bad" argument is as far as ever from being resolved.

"Everytime someone sees [Deep Throat] they're watching me being raped"

But for the moment at least, the liberalisation lobby seems to be having its way. Last year censors in the UK gave the green light to a film called "Intimacy" which meant, for the first time in British cinemas, real sex could be seen on screen.

And women themselves are starting to take the reins in the sex industry, lending it an air of much needed respectability with new style sex shops such as Ann Summers, Myla and Coco de Mer.

By comparison, titles such as Richard Desmond's Horny Housewives and All Girl Action do sound somewhat dated and seedy.

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Some of your comments on this story:
I personally have nothing against people wishing to see pornography. I don't believe it degrades women - the women who appear in such videos/magazines are there because they want to be, and most are paid. If you, personally, find pornography to be degrading, you don't have to view it, but don't let your views stop others.
- Joe

The hypocracy of Blair's government is staggering. How can Labour claim to be a party that supports equal rights, when it takes donations from a known pornographer ? It is widely known that porn workers have one of the highest suicide rates, and are more likely to become drug addicts. Porn degrades all participants, including the viewer. But as we have seen with Channel 5, this government is prepared to sink to any depths to be seen as 'popular'.
- Mike, England

I think that this argument is all but irrelevant - the internet is by far the most popular way to access pornography.
- Anonymous, UK

More often that not the objections to porn is that it "exploits women". What about men? The gay pornography business is massive, are these men also being exploited?
- Mathew O'Marah, Slough, UK

Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies

Andrea Dworkin helped draft a law against pornography
The American feminist author Andrea Dworkin has died at her home in Washington, aged 58.
Ms Dworkin sparked international debate by arguing that pornography was a violation of women's rights and a precursor to rape.

Her book, Woman Hating, published when she was 27, was the first of more than a dozen books on the subject.

Ms Dworkin also helped draft a law in the city of Minneapolis that recognised pornography as sexual discrimination.

Ms Dworkin, originally from Camden, New Jersey, had been ill several years. She suffered from a number of ailments, including osteoarthritis.

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"Pornography is used in rape - to plan it, to execute it, to choreograph it, to engender the excitement to commit the act," she testified before the New York Attorney General's Commission on Pornography in 1986.

In 2001, Ms Dworkin won the American book award for writing Scapegoat: the Jews, Israel and Women's Liberation.

Some in the media liked to picture her as tough and hard and difficult, but she was soft and with a lovely voice and a good sense of humour

At the time of her death, she was working on a book with the working title Writing America: How Novelists Invented and Gendered a Nation.

"In every century, there are a handful of writers who help the human race to evolve," said fellow feminist Gloria Steinem. "Andrea is one of them."

Her agent of 30 years, Elaine Markson, said: "Some in the media liked to picture her as tough and hard and difficult, but she was soft and with a lovely voice and a good sense of humour."

But Ms Dworkin's critics called her an enemy of free speech.

Ms Markson said Ms Dworkin had recently had knee surgery, and did not seem to have recovered very well from the operation.

"She was rather frail of late," she added. Ms Dworkin is survived by her husband John Stoltenberg, also a feminist activist and writer.

A public memorial is to be held for her in New York.
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Re: Is porn good for society? / Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies

I know it's only slightly relevant, but better to be funded by a porn baron than an arms dealer, shurely?
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Old 12th April 2005, 8:24am   #3
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Perhaps, but they work regularly with arms dealers so that ones a lot more obvious. Unless of course Tony's got everyone in the Labour party on free subscriptions to Horny Housewives. Come to think of it, if I had his wife I'd probably want some bloody good porn connections too!
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I think this goes to show that politicians get het up about all the wrong issues.
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Old 12th April 2005, 8:40am   #5
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Re: Is porn good for society? / Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies

I should have noted that the Is porn good for society? article is from 2002 and I posted it because of today's article: Anti-porn crusader Dworkin dies.

I'm in Northern Ireland just now and I'm really glad I'm leaving for Scotland tomorrow before the Election frenzy takes over the media here. N.I. politics makes me sick. Especially now that the DUP and Sinn Fein have overtaken the Ulster Unionists and the SDLP as the young people's parties of choice, depending on what side of the fence you're on. Yeah thats really what we need, more extremism and constant bitching because it's easier to keep your potential electorate happy than build bridges. I hate them all. It's like we're still living in the dark ages.

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Yeah man Northern Ireland sucks ass!

I'd rather be in porn than Northern Ireland
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Off topic somewhat, but I have always found Belfast a great place to be. Although, I have never lived there so cannot say what it is like to live in.
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"I'd rather be in porn than Northern Ireland"

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