Favourite Body Fluid - Page 4

Frankie LiDeo · 27th January 2006, 4:59pm

Then I retract my stated love of cytoplasm. It's crap if it doesn't include the watery stuff.
Plus: it shouldn't be a nominee for 'best bodily fluid' if it's not a fluid.
I'm not angry, LesMTS, I'm just disappointed.

Frankie LiDeo · 27th January 2006, 5:04pm

''The living matter outside of the nucleus, called the cytoplasm, is a watery gel crowded with specialized structures...''

''Cytoplasm is a watery gel in which cell structures are suspended within the cell membrane. Each cell contains a nucleus, which carries chromosomes (the structures which carry your dna) and governs the cell.''

I still don't think I'm wrong, incidentally. Does my definition contradict the book definition?

Strider C.R.U.X. · 27th January 2006, 5:11pm

Pish and Tosh

I dont have any stupid cryptogasms in my blood

middleman · 27th January 2006, 5:21pm

Cytoplasm - Contents of a cell that are contained within its plasma membrane but, in the case of eucaryotic cells, outside the nucleus.

Cytosol - Contents of the main compartment of the cytoplasm, excluding membrane-bounded organelles such as endoplasmic reticulum and mitochondria. Originally defined operationally as the cell fraction remaining after membranes, cytoskeletal components, and other organelles have been removed by low-speed centrifugation.

-From "Molecular Biolody of The Cell" 3rd ed, Alberts, et al...

I guess these definition are a little bit up for interpretation though so I can't say that you are wrong, just that my understanding of it is different from yours.

middleman · 27th January 2006, 5:25pm

I should add that I can't really speak...I'm not really a much of a cellular biologist, there too small for my liking. Physiology I like, at least in most cases I can see what I'm looking for.

Frankie LiDeo · 27th January 2006, 5:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strider C.R.U.X.

Pish and Tosh

I dont have any stupid cryptogasms in my blood

Cryptogasm - The intense rush of pleasure derived from poking about in crypts.

middleman · 27th January 2006, 5:31pm

in fact if you read the definition on thefreedictionary.com it supports both our points of view...ah well.

Strider C.R.U.X. · 27th January 2006, 5:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChildcatcher

Cryptogasm - The intense rush of pleasure derived from poking about in crypts.

ithought that was necrophielia?

Frankie LiDeo · 27th January 2006, 6:00pm

That's an abnormal/excessive interest, or sexual arousal caused by, or the act of so violating a corpse.
Cryptophiles are far more innocent, just very excited by crypts.
We've all been there.

petpiranha · 27th January 2006, 7:00pm

Considering Les and Chris were having an argument about amino acids before we went onstage in Camborne this thread doesnt really surprise me...

Frankie LiDeo · 27th January 2006, 7:06pm

What was the point in question? I'd like to brusquely stick my ignorant oar in.
To perform the dispute equivalent of a man 'making love'.

Pantgirl · 27th January 2006, 7:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LesMTS

I forgot chyme and bile too....fuck.

If you are being pedantic then include prostatic secretions and pamcreatic secretions as well...and are hormones included or do they fall out of the realms of secretions? I like biology and shiznit

*the transfer* · 27th January 2006, 7:10pm

what about saliva... eh? eh?

this poll clearly wasn't very well thought through

...especially with so many science geeks around

Strider C.R.U.X. · 27th January 2006, 7:34pm

I think its proved that all the forum 'science geeks' are really really stupid

they dont even consider puke a bodily fluid....

Although most science geeks probably dont get the chance to exchange them very often, so i can see why they have little knowledge of the topic

*LesMTS* · 28th January 2006, 9:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChildcatcher

What was the point in question? I'd like to brusquely stick my ignorant oar in.
To perform the dispute equivalent of a man 'making love'.

Somebody said that there were only 20 amino acids, which is pish. There are hundreds, humans only use 20 for making protein but there are others (ornithine, citrilline etc) which are used in different things (those two, for example, are important in the urea cycle).
On the cytoplasm/cytosol issue, I've always considered them to be synonymous. I may be wrong. I'd go with what Alberts et al said in "MBOTC" because it's pretty much the definitive cellular biology textbook.
Someone raised the question of pancreatic secretions, I'd always held that they were a component of chyme but further investigation has confused the issue somewhat. Some texts define chyme as the contents of the stomach before it passes the pyloric sphincter and enters the duodenum, in which case pancreatic enzymes are not a component. Others define it as the mixture of partially digested food and digestive enzymes as it passes through the digestive tract up to the point of the ileo-cecal valve, in which case pancreatic enzymes would be a component as they are added to the mixture at the sphincter of oddi, in the duodenum.