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Old 12th October 2006, 6:23am   #1
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The Hobbit

MGM Studios (owners of the film rights to The Hobbit, not New Line Cinema who wangled the rights to the Lord of the Rings trilogy) are apparently in discussions with Peter Jackson to do The Hobbit sometime this decade.

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1160269092

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"Dear organizers of The Hobbit Petition:

We would like to give you the official statement from MGM. Feel free to pass this along to your members and affiliated web sites. Thank you and please see below:

"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and most ideal choice for directing The Hobbit," said MGM. "MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production. And, I'm sure to the delight of the 50,000 filmgoers who have petitioned us in recent weeks, demanding we bring this film to fruition, we have had a few initial conversations about the project with Mr. Jackson's representatives."

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Re: The Hobbit

heard a rumour a while back that 2 production companies held the distribution rights, one for america and one for the rest of the world and the hold up was them coming to an agreement.

dont know if any of it is true but it only seeems logical to make head way with the Hobbit movie post haste
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Re: The Hobbit

Was mildly surprised that he didn't film the Hobbit as an afterthought to LOTR, it is set in the same world, after all.
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Re: The Hobbit

Aye - Jackson himself woke up a few weeks back to hear a news report that he was doing The Hobbit!
That was the first time the two studios had discussed a rights deal, and told the meadia of the discussions.

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Was mildly surprised that he didn't film the Hobbit as an afterthought to LOTR, it is set in the same world, after all.
After the amount of work that went into LOTR, he wanted a break.
Also - Would "An afterthought" really do The Hobbit justice?
It might not be as grand as LOTR, but some of the setpieces would have to be done extremely well to not come across as utter shite.
Smaug, for one!

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Re: The Hobbit

Courtosy of theonering.net peter jackson NOT to do the Hobbit film

dont know the validity of it tho, plus its about new line not MGM

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Dear One Ringers,

As you know, there's been a lot of speculation about The Hobbit. We are often asked about when or if this film will ever be made. We have always responded that we would be very interested in making the film - if it were offered to us to make.

You may also be aware that Wingnut Films has bought a lawsuit against New Line, which resulted from an audit we undertook on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring. Our attitude with the lawsuit has always been that since it's largely based on differences of opinion about certain accounting practices, we would like an independent body - whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues and make an unbiased ruling. We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is. In our minds, it's not much more complex than that and that's exactly why film contracts include right-to-audit clauses.

However, we have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved. This is simple common sense - you cannot be in a relationship with a film studio, making a complex, expensive movie and dealing with all the pressures and responsibilities that come with the job, while an unresolved lawsuit exists.

We have also said that we do not want to tie settlement of the lawsuit to making a film of The Hobbit. In other words, we would have to agree to make The Hobbit as a condition of New Line settling our lawsuit. In our minds this is not the right reason to make a film and if a film of The Hobbit went ahead on this basis, it would be doomed. Deciding to make a movie should come from the heart - it's not a matter of business convenience. When you agree to make a film, you're taking on a massive commitment and you need to be driven by an absolute passion to want to get the story on screen. It's that passion, and passion alone, that gives the movie its imagination and heart. To us it is not a cold-blooded business decision.

A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

However last week, Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects.

Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz (this has never been conveyed to us before), and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director.

Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us.

We have always had the greatest support from The Ringers and we are very sorry our involvement with The Hobbit has been ended in this way. Our journey into Tolkien's world started with a phone call from Ken Kamins to Harvey Weinstein in Nov 1995 and ended with a phone call from Mark Ordesky to Ken in Nov 2006. It has been a great 11 years.

This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects.

We send our very best wishes to whomever has the privilege of making The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the film on the big screen.

Warmest regards to you all, and thanks for your incredible support over the years.

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Old 20th November 2006, 2:38pm   #6
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Re: The Hobbit

Considering that nowhere in the first news statements lies the words "collaborate with New Line" but rather "Collaborate with Jackson"

What I read out of that article is that after New Line stiffed Jackson on payment on his contract, they weren't invited back to play anymore (New Line's involvement in the original LotR series was limited to financial backing, promotion, and distribution. If MGM studios signs a deal with Jackson, then he'll bring in WETA who practically created the digital world, and most of the actors involved in LOTR are independents - not attached to any one studio)

So it's a bit of a non-issue that New Line won't be involved anymore, and it's further confirmation that the people who hold the rights to the Hobbit are shopping around and looking for it to get made.

--edit -- and I'm fairly sure this is the first time the world at large has heard of the limited time film option on doing The Hobbit from New Line's camp...smells fishy.

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I wondered why they never did this before LOTR or at least after it, guaranteed to rake it in!
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Perhaps to not seem like it was merely a cheap money grab, or more likely, as Scapey said, to give poor ol' Mr Jackson a rest.
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I'll belive it when I see it. I'll probably also die.
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Re: The Hobbit

Hah, this seems like it's on a merry-go-round. Jackson to direct the Hobbit + Prequel

http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/...N_FOR_PREQUELS
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As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation."
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Re: The Hobbit

Looks like it's going ahead afterall..

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Re: The Hobbit

Just read this myspace bulletin, was about to look for the hobbit thread, dunno if any of this has been posted in here mind

he following was posted on www.scifi.com/scifiwire earlier today -

Jackson To Produce The Hobbit

The Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson has settled his differences with New Line Cinema and will executive-produce a two-part adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, the studio announced.

New Line and MGM signed a deal to co-finance and co-distribute The Hobbit and a sequel to the film. New Line will handle distribution in North America, and MGM will distribute internationally, the two studios said. It's unclear whether Jackson will helm the films.

New Line added that it and Jackson have settled all litigation over Jackson's profit participation in the $3 billion-grossing Rings trilogy, without giving details. The settlement apparently brings to an end the acrimonious split between Jackson and New Line.

Jackson and Fran Walsh will executive-produce the films, to be shot simultaneously, and New Line will manage their production.

Preproduction will begin soon, and principal photography is tentatively set for 2009. The release of the first film is slated for 2010 and the sequel in 2011.

Jackson, MGM chairman and chief executive Harry Sloan and New Line co-chairman and co-chief executives Bob Shaye and Michael Lynne jointly made the announcement on Dec. 18.

Other headlines from scifiwire -

Writer Reveals Trek Details

Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original series star Leonard Nimoy.

Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place before the events of the original series.

"There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and to go back to what happened before it."

The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!"

Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move.

"The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on Christmas Day 2008.

Clarke Turns 90, Releases Video

Legendary SF author Arthur C. Clarke, who turned 90 on Dec. 16, released a video on YouTube.com with his birthday wishes, which included a call from an extra-terrestrial, that man kick his oil habit and for peace in his adoptive Sri Lanka, the Reuters news service reported.

In the nine-minute video, Clarke added that he would like to be remembered foremost as a writer and predicted that commercial space travel will one day be commonplace.

"If I may be allowed just three wishes, ... I would like to see some evidence of extraterrestrial life," Clarke said. "I've always believed that we're not alone in the universe, but we're still waiting for E.T. to call us or give us some kind of sign."

Clarke added: "Secondly, I would like to see us kick our current addiction to oil and adopt clean energy sources. Climate change has now added a new sense of urgency. ... We can't allow coal and oil to slowly bake our planet."

Lastly, Clarke wished for peace in Sri Lanka, where he has lived for the past 50 years.

Clarke has written more than 80 books, including 2001: A Space Odyssey, as well as 500 short stories and articles. Clarke is also credited with the original idea of using orbiting satellites for communications and once predicted that humans would reach the moon by the year 2000.

Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of producing and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF novel Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.

"That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while promoting his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."

Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group of human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an alien spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the commander of the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous with the alien craft.

"The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer space," Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent creatures is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you think about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures--and I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and if they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"

Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a decade, but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not only as "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the Web site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, which classifies it as "in development."

"We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman said. "As a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with him. I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from them. 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"

Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a very large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got to design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and because it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many liberties."
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over at superherohype.com they are reporting sam raimi is angling big time to get the directing gig on this big time. If he were to get it the speculation is that he would step down from directing duties on Spiderman 4.
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Perhaps to not seem like it was merely a cheap money grab, or more likely, as Scapey said, to give poor ol' Mr Jackson a rest.
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Guillermo del Toro is in talks to direct back-to-back installments of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, which is being co-financed by New Line and MGM, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Few filmmakers have the cachet that del Toro has, as well as a deep love for the source material, an assured grasp of fantasy filmmaking and an understanding and command of geek culture as well as its respect. Del Toro has built that goodwill through such films as the Oscar-nominated Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy, Blade 2 (which was made by New Line) and The Devil's Backbone.

Because of other commitments that included The Lovely Bones and Tintin, "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy director Peter Jackson could not take on writing and directing roles, opting instead to become an executive producer with approval over creative elements of the pair of films.

Because of the strike, no writer has been hired to adapt Tolkien's children's classic, though that process will be fast-tracked once it's resolved. Del Toro and Jackson will oversee the two films' writing.

Principal photography for the films, which will be shot simultaneously, is tentatively set for 2009. The production budget is estimated at $150 million per film. The release of the first film is slated for 2010 and the second in 2011.

The Hobbit is centered on Bilbo Baggins and Gandalf who go on a quest to find the treasure of a dragon named Smaug. Tolkien went on to write "The Lord of the Rings" 17 years later.
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