Cloverfield (JJ Abrams, viral marketing) - Page 13

Will_Couper · 18th February 2008, 6:49pm

Why did I subject myself to this? Why? Up until a few seconds before I paid my money I was going to go to 'No Country for Old Men', but nooooooo, I had a sudden change of mind.

What a fool. What a shite film.

Will

McLeary · 18th February 2008, 11:26pm

You're wrong. No that it's better than 'No Country...' per se, but it is far from a shite film.

I honestly don't see how anyone could've been disappointed by it, it delivered exactly what I was expecting, based on the advertising and whatnot. It was effective and engrossing, I really liked it.

sylvianorth · 18th February 2008, 11:45pm

MLeary said it basically. V enjoyable film, twang the rest of the advertisement stuff its still enjoyable.

Will_Couper · 18th February 2008, 11:48pm

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You're wrong. No that it's better than 'No Country...' per se, but it is far from a shite film.

I'll disagree with that. Shit film in my opinion. Good film in yours.

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I honestly don't see how anyone could've been disappointed by it, it delivered exactly what I was expecting, based on the advertising and whatnot. It was effective and engrossing, I really liked it.

That it delivered a gimmicky, undramatic piece of crap, for me was an expectation I hoped it would defy. It didn't.

Will

McLeary · 19th February 2008, 5:42pm

Why go to a film in which you know the whole thing is shot via handcam then complain about the gimmick? The gimmick is the vehicle by which to deliver this film's intention: to create a disaster/monster movie that focussed not on the carnage but on the impact on those affected. Not that I'm attempting to over-intellectualise it, it's just a fun bit of fluff. Was quite similar to 'The Host' actually, in retrospect, though I didn't enjoy that. Cloverfield kept a focus that The Host failed to.

Don't see how you can describe it as 'undramatic' either, it's certainly thrilling and visceral. I had been up all night before going to see this, and was falling asleep during the ads, but I woke to a bang in the Iron Man trailer and never came close to sleeping during this. After the first 10 minutes it keeps a relentless pace.

People aimed the same criticisms, that it was gimmicky and boring, at the similar Blair Witch Project, and I thought they were wrong then too. I guess some people just don't like this particular style of film.

Will_Couper · 19th February 2008, 7:01pm

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Why go to a film in which you know the whole thing is shot via handcam then complain about the gimmick? The gimmick is the vehicle by which to deliver this film's intention: to create a disaster/monster movie that focussed not on the carnage but on the impact on those affected. Not that I'm attempting to over-intellectualise it, it's just a fun bit of fluff. Was quite similar to 'The Host' actually, in retrospect, though I didn't enjoy that. Cloverfield kept a focus that The Host failed to.

Don't see how you can describe it as 'undramatic' either, it's certainly thrilling and visceral. I had been up all night before going to see this, and was falling asleep during the ads, but I woke to a bang in the Iron Man trailer and never came close to sleeping during this. After the first 10 minutes it keeps a relentless pace.

People aimed the same criticisms, that it was gimmicky and boring, at the similar Blair Witch Project, and I thought they were wrong then too. I guess some people just don't like this particular style of film.

You really did just see the word 'gimicky' and ran with it didn't you? I decided to give it a chance and it didn't convince me. I'm not sure if you're trying to change my mind too. Doesn't matter it was crap as far as I'm concerned. Last thing I'll say on it.

And I thought 'The Blair Witch Project' was awful too. It only came alive in the last five minutes.

Will

McLeary · 19th February 2008, 8:31pm

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You really did just see the word 'gimicky' and ran with it didn't you?

Yes, those whole two sentences I wrote on the matter really are an example of me going wild and running with it.

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I decided to give it a chance and it didn't convince me. I'm not sure if you're trying to change my mind too. Doesn't matter it was crap as far as I'm concerned.

Fair enough. I can't help but get the impression that you went in not wanting to like it, possibly with the intent of later being able to bash it on the internet free from 'you haven't even seen it' persecution. I have no intention to try and change your mind, just disagreed with your assessment of it as a "shite film".

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Last thing I'll say on it.

Bet it isn't.

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And I thought 'The Blair Witch Project' was awful too. It only came alive in the last five minutes.

For future reference then: stay away from 'gimmicky' hand-held camera films.

Stew · 19th February 2008, 11:03pm

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For future reference then: stay away from 'gimmicky' hand-held camera films.

I await his take on Diary of the Dead.

Dyno · 20th February 2008, 12:33pm

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Crazy Ian · 21st February 2008, 12:22pm

Finally got to see this too, and I really enjoyed it.. Wasn't all that it was made out to be. Gotta love the Little Parasite's

Hopefully if they do follow up with a sequel it'll be the US Military doing a sweep and clear operation in the subway tunnels...

XMachina · 21st February 2008, 1:22pm

The Cloverfield hype sort of reminds me of Jurassic Park when there were all the stories of kids fainting in the cinema and goodness knows what else. Last time I watched it, it was difficult to watch Jurassic Park today and justify the hype and I'll be interested to see how Cloverfield fares in the future when there are no teasers and what have you to release any more.

Devastator · 21st February 2008, 1:32pm

Jurassic Park's AMAZING! How dare you.

Pantgirl · 23rd February 2008, 11:45pm

I just saw this tonight, and I really really enjoyed it. I love Disaster movies in general and liked the whole storyline although I woulda left the girl in the high rise building and got the fuck outta dodge

ALSO Poor Hud

pANDAS Radio · 24th February 2008, 11:50am

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the ONLY thing that annoyed me was the guy going back for his bird.

Way to miss what little plot there was. If he hadn't gone back for Kebabby McSlag then the film would have been 20 minutes long as they'd all have fucked off away from the monster. That would have made for a fantastically realistic movie. Instead of hanging about they all leave and survive. Now that would have been truly original, and better.

McLeary · 24th February 2008, 12:46pm

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Instead of hanging about they all leave and survive. Now that would have been truly original, and better.

You'rer right, that exactly what I'm looking for when I go to the pictures, a 20 minute film, which after 10 minutes of character setting, explodes into life then just ends. Cool.