My visit to Madinah

[Khattab]

Originally Posted by Campestral

scotland is much better looking that those plades that's my house

are there any good muslim musicians? i'm not being rhetorical are there any sacred scripts of music that noone else can play unless they're blessed?

It is so beautiful. I am a Muslim and the world is a place to live in. I live everywhere because I am a Muslim and no borders for me in my religion.

Regarding Music, it is forbidden in Islam due to its affection to people and their call for adultury and bad behavious. But there are many Muslim musican but I can't give you some names.

There is the Islamic nasheed wich has no music and talk about everything rahter than dirty words.

You know that we have certain traditions and our ears accept things you may not accept.
This is called Talaal badro alaina by Mshari Al-Afasy (He is also recites Qur'an so beautiful) a call for peace...

YouTube - طلع البدر


This is an English one by Ahmad bo Khatir
YouTube - نشيد اØ*مد بو خاطر بالانجليزي



This is for children... on Almajd TV.Teaching the letter Alef أ
YouTube - أناشيد أطÙ�ال نشيد الأØ*رÙ� Ø*رÙ� الألÙ� نشيد أطÙ�ال children song

The last one is called Osood al harb (Lions of war)
YouTube - نشيد رائع- اسود الØ*رب

[crazydiamond85]

[quote=Yes, you are now allowed to enter both Makkah and Almadinah because they are religious city.

Islam is opened but now against its principles. No need to enter them both for non-Muslims!!

Thanks for this question, but I can't say rahter than that. As in Rome (Faticaan) we are not allowed to build Mosques as well.

No , it is true. These are religious cities and they are only for Muslims.[/QUOTE]

Sounds a bit strange if you ask me
but what do i know
surely it would be better to allow non muslims to these places, i'm not saying build churches or temples and the like
however allow tourists and the like to enjoy the citys beauty, and to learn of there history

[Khattab]

Originally Posted by crazydiamond85

Sounds a bit strange if you ask me
but what do i know
surely it would be better to allow non muslims to these places, i'm not saying build churches or temples and the like
however allow tourists and the like to enjoy the citys beauty, and to learn of there history

Thanks pal but this is Islam and it doesn't allow non-Muslims to come there. According to Islam whoever attend Makkah or Madinah must be a Muslim. Learning history is not an excuse to attend them.

In Makkah and Madinah also it is prohibited to hunt animals or cut trees.

It is only for Muslims...

[crazydiamond85]

Originally Posted by Khattab

Thanks pal but this is Islam and it doesn't allow non-Muslims to come there. According to Islam whoever attend Makkah or Madinah must be a Muslim. Learning history is not an excuse to attend them.

In Makkah and Madinah also it is prohibited to hunt animals or cut trees.

It is only for Muslims...

so wat your saying is depsite all this talk of islam being a religion of open minded peole, who are tollerent of other religions and races, its really just a pile of shit?
surely it would be in the muslim communitys best intrests to allow non muslims to visit such places in order for us to further understand your ways and customs ?
but i know this is not your decision
im just curious, do you agree with me on this point?

[Khattab]

Some more pictures of Almadinah.. I saw it on a website..


The grave of the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him)












Some old pictures..

[Khattab]

Originally Posted by crazydiamond85

so wat your saying is depsite all this talk of islam being a religion of open minded peole, who are tollerent of other religions and races, its really just a pile of shit?
surely it would be in the muslim communitys best intrests to allow non muslims to visit such places in order for us to further understand your ways and customs ?
but i know this is not your decision
im just curious, do you agree with me on this point?

Hi pal... This is not my words. This is what I have read. I think Islam meant those who want to come only not those who want to discover and get closer look... Prophet Mohammad had a Jewish neighbour !! he didn't ask him to leave Madina in that era!! I think there is certain detales need to be known about that. You should ask a scientist not me. What i found may mean living not visiting. In Islam, we should cover everything..

I read that some scholars in Islam didn't forbid that!! Those who forbid may had misunderstood the difference between living and visitng.. I need to get more knowledge in that... But believe me if there is a prevention, there is no relation to tolleration or hate. The matter is its sacredness and it is a city that is speciaized for religion... You should accept others believes not think it as a racism.

[crazydiamond85]

Originally Posted by Khattab

Hi pal... This is not my words. This is what I have read. I think Islam meant those who want to come only not those who want to discover and get closer look... Prophet Mohammad had a Jewish neighbour !! he didn't ask him to leave Madina in that era!! I think there is certain detales need to be known about that. You should ask a scientist not me. What i found may mean living not visiting. In Islam, we should cover everything..

I read that some scholars in Islam didn't forbid that!! Those who forbid may had misunderstood the difference between living and visitng.. I need to get more knowledge in that... But believe me if there is a prevention, there is no relation to tolleration or hate. The matter is its sacredness and it is a city that is speciaized for religion... You should accept others believes not think it as a racism.

I dont mean hate as such, however I do think its a bad idea to say that certain places are for muslims only.
I am actually genuinley interested in religious history, so visiting such places would be a great thing for me i feel
i do appolagise if you find me questioning your vaules and laws as insulting

then again i could always just say that I'm muslcim and go
whos to say i'm not ?

[karbon14]

who's that circled in the photo?

i expected the big man (peace be upon him) to have a more elaborate grave tbh.

[Khattab]

Originally Posted by crazydiamond85

I dont mean hate as such, however I do think its a bad idea to say that certain places are for muslims only.
I am actually genuinley interested in religious history, so visiting such places would be a great thing for me i feel
i do appolagise if you find me questioning your vaules and laws as insulting

then again i could always just say that I'm muslcim and go
whos to say i'm not ?

Thanks pal for your kindness. This is something not known from the Islamic position. Muslims go to Makkah and Madinah to pray and worship. It is the same as schools. In Australia, I wanted to go to a school and they told me that I am not allowed to go unless certain conditions!! I realized that there are certain things that if I pushed my curiosity their, students wouldn't learn. Islam knew that with people who wanted to visit there would be people want to do rather than visiting. For example, some Muslims have their own believe that is not from Islam and may kill the Immam (the man who people follow during prayers). So I think that there are things more important than visiting. That is something rather than the Islamic wisdom.



Being a Muslim or sasying (I am a Muslim) stop people from preventing you even in wars!!! How about comming to Madinah!!?? Islam teaches us to respect words and respect people. Thanks for your kindness pal.

Originally Posted by karbon14

who's that circled in the photo?

i expected the big man (peace be upon him) to have a more elaborate grave tbh.

That is a businessman called Sheikh Mohammad bin Laden. He is not circling. He is as it seems watching workers during enlarging the building of the mosque.

[Khattab]

you've said circled!! I thought circling... bad English!! sorry for bad misunderstanding

[crazydiamond85]

Sheikh Mohammad bin Laden?
wouldnt happen to be related to osama would he?
I say this not ask as joke, but only because his family is 1 of the richest and most powerfull in
Saudi Arabia

[Khattab]

Originally Posted by crazydiamond85

Sheikh Mohammad bin Laden?
wouldnt happen to be related to osama would he?
I say this not ask as joke, but only because his family is 1 of the richest and most powerfull in
Saudi Arabia

Yes. He is his father. Osama means lion and his name is Osama Mohamad Awad bin Laden. But Osama lived as a poor man because he wanted to be strong and patient !!. He was rich but he didn't think of money as a way to live better than others!!