Is God evil?

[Invisible_Pain]

Originally Posted by CHUCK LIDELOL

Explain meteors.

its when aliens get pissed at us and throw bolders

[Potatojunkie]

Originally Posted by Invisible_Pain

everything good and bad thats happened in this world has been a direct result of human beings

Seriously, now.

[djtoast]

Originally Posted by Potatojunkie

Seriously, now.

if one felt charitable one could say that "good" and "bad" are judgements invented by humans, so from a very literal point of view one could support this. ie without human appraisal things can't be either. but i don't think that was what was meant.

[Invisible_Pain]

no what i ment was for example animals kill to eat to establish and order in thier pack, humans kill for fun pleasure wars so on, we destroy and have only just started putting back

[MarkMono]

Animals bully the fuck out of each other, whatever any half-baked anthropologist tells you.

[Campestral]

why are humans and animals so far apart? it doesn't really make sense that through the whole of evolution there is no gradual scale of intelligence or cognition in many different beings. and why do women keep calling god a guy? is that like plausible deniabliity? or if god made man in his own image then the devil trumped him by making women grrrr it all makes sense now! on a serious not though, all the advancements in society have been made by secular ideas like equality for everyone, it's a natural instinct to be equal and nothing to do with a book of rules, all religious people should be held in contempt the sanctimonious messianic bastards telling folk they know how the world works

[DavetheScot]

From a less than agnostic point of view:

The point has been touched on by a few, but i think the initial thing to consider is does god really exist? And what is god? An omniscient/omnipotent man in the sky? Or the balance between good and bad karma... ying and yang... etc etc!

To begin with, I think that "bad" may be an over generalisation. For example, who or what is purely good or completely unselfish? And when does this degree of "bad" or self interest make somebody a bad person? What lines must be crossed?

But to stop being overly and annoyingly philisophical...

(for multicultural purposes I'll refer to God as "Dave")

As religious people will tell you, the tests/trials/pain Dave inflicts on us are purely to test our faith. And since some will lose faith in Dave from say... the loss of a dear family member, then this would seem apt.

Personally however, I would categorise this as a "line crosser" and therefore bad. I'll justify this by saying that if Dave is omniscient, then surely he would know those who would remain faithful through and through, without any need to cause his/her/its "creations/children" immense pain.

To look at it from another way (and ensure this is a balanced arguement)... if it were to be agreed that "Dave" was "bad," I think (controversially) people who have disasters/tragedies in their lives may use Dave as somebody to blame. However, is it not true that Dave bestowed free will opon us? And therefore we go through life making our own choices. We choose which roads we cross, which pills to pop, which people we leave our children with. Newton said, for every action there is an (equal and opposite) reaction. If the reaction happens to be some sort of disaster, is it not then true that (by the basis of free will) it is still our fault (therefore clearing Dave of any wrong doing)?

To finalise, I would say that it is easier to point at Dave and say... you had the power to stop/not do that, and you didn't.

In any case i think this was a very interesting question, and think the standard of peoples responses shows there are some truely interesting people out there...

well i'm off to the pub