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Old 31st March 2009, 1:34pm   #61
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You're getting unduly vitiriolic over a total misunderstanding on your part. This could very well be the first time that you've cared enough about anything on here to do so.

Lost, heh, appropriate.
Aw man, unduly vitriolic? Really?
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Old 31st March 2009, 1:39pm   #63
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Was directed at dictionary.com. I fucking HATE dictionary.com but it seemed appropriate as Lost is an American show and they can't speak English properly.

What about Lost being pretentious seems negative to you?
No, nothing - not what I meant. I meant the attribute of being pretentious to me is a negative one.

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Here, was a guy who's a wrestler legit lecturing people about "stupid questions" and watching appropriate TV? Amazing.
I like wrestling fans even less for questions like "See that cunt that looks just like you, wi the same tattoos an aw that but wi a mask on... who is that?"

Took the cunt three fucking years to realise.
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Old 31st March 2009, 1:46pm   #66
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No, nothing - not what I meant. I meant the attribute of being pretentious to me is a negative one.

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It isn't always, for a lot of popular entertainment merely having the superficial appearance of having deep and profound meaning is sufficient to lend the rest of the soap opera fluff a little dignity. Its hardly Shakespeare, and any improvement is an improvement.

See also: The comics of Grant Morrison, the lyrics of Tool and the movies of Guillermo Del Toro. All of which I love.

You can see it as negative thing in all cases if you really want to, but it kind of flies in the face of logic.
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It isn't always, for a lot of popular entertainment merely having the superficial appearance of having deep and profound meaning is sufficient to lend the rest of the soap opera fluff a little dignity. Its hardly Shakespeare, and any improvement is an improvement.

See also: The comics of Grant Morrison, the lyrics of Tool and the movies of Guillermo Del Toro. All of which I love.

You can see it as negative thing in all cases if you really want to, but it kind of flies in the face of logic.
Well, you know what, I get that. I guess I just always associate being pretentious with, you know, pretending to be something it's not (e.g. deep and profound), which of itself is entirely subjective anyway - because how do you draw the line between entertainment that does have meaning and entertainment that pretends to have meaning?
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This entire conversation is pretentious.

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Well, you know what, I get that. I guess I just always associate being pretentious with, you know, pretending to be something it's not (e.g. deep and profound), which of itself is entirely subjective anyway - because how do you draw the line between entertainment that does have meaning and entertainment that pretends to have meaning?
There is a lot of grey area, but something Lost is a very clear example of the latter. The story runs on constant, and mostly empty intrigue. So, from a superficial perspective its briefly like watching the most intricate and multi-levelelled mystery ever concocted. However, as its elements are only explained retroactively and the more nonsensical mysteries are quietly post-rationalised or ignored, there is no pay-off. Its just disposable entertainment, junk food for the brain.

It would take the greatest writers in the history of humanity to make sense of the sheer weight of incoherency generated by this show.

Nothing particularly wrong with that mind, if you enjoy the ride.
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