deja vu? - Page 2

*LesMTS* · 10th April 2009, 10:44am

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Originally Posted by MarkMono

Some experiences remind you of others, whether through similar associations or simply jaded familiarity with your surroundings.

This probably accounts for some cases, but there's definitely a form of deja vu where the experience you are having at that moment is registered to your memory before you're conscious of it, but nobody really knows how or why.
It's a symptom of some forms of epilepsy, which hints at a physiological cause related to the way neurons are communicating with one another rather than just a familiarity with one's surroundings.

The "out of synch eyes" hypothesis isn't really accepted anymore for the simple reason that dejavu isn't a solely visual phenomenon, it applies to your complete sensory experience. And blind people get deja vu too.

In short, it's dead interesting and nobody really knows.

Posh · 10th April 2009, 3:05pm

What is this even a parody of? It is a parody right?!

Dec · 10th April 2009, 3:11pm

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Originally Posted by LesMTS

This probably accounts for some cases, but there's definitely a form of deja vu where the experience you are having at that moment is registered to your memory before you're conscious of it, but nobody really knows how or why.

See when you say "There's definitely", do you mean it's possible to test people for this form of deja vu or that you've experienced it empirically and you've spoke to people who report similar feeling?

Ultima · 10th April 2009, 3:12pm

Deja Vu was a crackin' film.

Addy · 10th April 2009, 5:38pm

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Originally Posted by jenandherlaptop

i was told this too.

i used to get deja vu all the time.... but it was odd, because it wasn't that i'd done/seen it before
It was more like i've done this in a dream before

That's exactly what I feel whenever I get deja vu, I'm sure I've dreamt that exact sequence of events. Which leads to me trying to work out how the dream went on and if the results were good or bad

endless psych · 10th April 2009, 5:51pm

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Originally Posted by Dec

See when you say "There's definitely", do you mean it's possible to test people for this form of deja vu or that you've experienced it empirically and you've spoke to people who report similar feeling?

I could be wrong but I vaugely remember that some neurologist managed to reproduce the phenomenon of déjà vu by doing something or other to the brain. Which I think was done to test the theory that it was down to info being avaliable to some neural pathways being activated but others not.

raisenop3 · 6th July 2009, 8:51pm

Deja vu is a strip club in Nashville, TN - "100's of beautiful ladies, and 3 ugly ones."

XMachina · 6th July 2009, 8:53pm

It's when the Matrix changes something.

Ethel Small · 10th July 2009, 9:24pm

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Originally Posted by Addy

That's exactly what I feel whenever I get deja vu, I'm sure I've dreamt that exact sequence of events. Which leads to me trying to work out how the dream went on and if the results were good or bad

I've said this in another post, think it was years ago, very few people want to believe in this stuff and that's fair enough, I'm just describing what I've experienced. I'm not lying, but I will accept it's entirely possible I'm crazy.

When I was 15 I experienced a year of very regular deja vu. It began with a dream I had three times in one night, it was very long, I remembered certain parts and thought it was very odd. The following week, these events happened exactly the same way in real life, it was a very powerful feeling of deja vu, not least because I knew I had dreamt it. It didn't last a moment like I had experienced deja vu before, but an hour. After this I experienced deja vu very regularly and for very long periods of time. I've never been able to successfully record a dream that came true, for some reason I didn't remember the right ones but I was convinced that every deja vu feeling came from having lived that moment in a dream.

Sometimes during a deja vu feeling I was even aware enough to know what would happen next, but it was usually only a few seconds before (not enough time to do anything about it).

Alas I never managed to win the lottery... The deja vu stuff faded by the end of the year, I still get it a little bit now (like normal folks), but it was kind of taking over my life so I'm glad it stopped.

DISCLAIMER: There is no history of mental illness in my family

I did alot of research at the time and there have been many reports like mine. I'm all for science but there are some things you just can't prove, sometimes you need a little faith.

endless psych · 11th July 2009, 12:29am

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Originally Posted by Ethel Small

I did alot of research at the time and there have been many reports like mine. I'm all for science but there are some things you just can't prove, sometimes you need a little faith.

Did you look into confirmation bias at all?

Largest of Gregs · 11th July 2009, 12:54am

I fucking HATE hippies, but I love Deja Vu

Ethel Small · 13th July 2009, 11:34pm

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Originally Posted by endless psych

Did you look into confirmation bias at all?

Fuckin hilarious (I did psychology too yet I don't feel the need to be a wank with it). Do you have an actual opinion on the subject or are you just here to say "Heavy NAW"

I'm Your God Now · 13th July 2009, 11:45pm

It's when someone steps on your grave.

cybergrunt · 18th July 2009, 1:44am

I find a lot of my deja vu experiences are heavily tied around my senses; particularly sight, smell and hearing. I think it is mental conditioning from previous experiences which correspond significantly with the present situation enough to trigger a memory which makes us believe we have done/seen/smelled/heard that before. However, having said that I have also experienced things I have had occur in dreams but I that is a whole different ball game I think.

endless psych · 18th July 2009, 2:14am

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Originally Posted by Ethel Small

Fuckin hilarious (I did psychology too yet I don't feel the need to be a wank with it). Do you have an actual opinion on the subject or are you just here to say "Heavy NAW"

Wow, defensive much? Ok so there was an element of wankery in asking the question but the question, and implied point behind it, was valid. But really "you need faith", "somethings science can't prove" red flag - bull. Particularly when science does have pretty good explanations for the phenomenon described...

My opinion on the subject is that your experience of "Deja Vu" comes from experiencing things you had dreamed which by coincidence you then remembered when similar things happened in your waking life. And, that as most people tended to do you edited out all the other dreams about things happening that didn't occur in real life thus confirmation bias.

In short dreams/predictions that "come true" are taken as evidence of some sort of soothesaying ability and dreams/predictions that don't are disregarded.

You can see a similar thing watching a "psychic" doing a cold reading and counting hits versus misses. Compare this with the folk who are being reads perception of the ratio of hits to misses and you'll see the "hits" seem more sentient even though they are adrift in a sea of misses.

None of this, I feel I should add, discounts the possibility that your experience is valid (or indeed psychics or countless other phenomena) however the onus would then be on finding out why this only occurred the amount of times it did and why it hasn't again and to propose a mechanism for why it might have happened. Faith is a cop out in that regard.