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    The big bang inside of us all

    Around the time of Spinoza, Newton and Leibniz the emerging world view was that of a clock work universe. The idea was that the initial conditions were set at the beginning of time and then everything proceeded from that point according to set rules that could be determined by science. Since, we are part of this clockwork universe Spinoza argued that all of our actions are determined by preceding causes. Free will was just an illusion and the only freedom was that of God's when he set the starting conditions.

    It has now been proven mathematically that at a quantum level the behaviour of sub-atomic particles is acausal. That means that it is fundamentally impossible to predict their behaviour. Their behaviour is essentially new information. Stephen Hawkings has said that this new information can be regarded as initial conditions of the universe.

    The Newtonian clockwork view point of the universe assumed that time was at a right angle to the starting conditions. This lead to the view that as time proceeded the influence of the initial conditions decreased and the influence of the laws of physics increased. This lead to physicists looking to explain the current state of the universe solely in terms of the laws of physics whilst disregarding the initial conditions as non-consequential. This bias has reached such a level that some physicists seek to make the initial conditions dependent upon the laws themselves. This is a contradiction in terms since initial conditions are by definition dependent upon nothing.

    In the new quantum view of the world, where the initial conditions are present at all times in all places, time is not at a right-angle to the initial conditions but an angle. The influence of the initial-conditions is maintained and can never be discounted.

    It is debatable as to whether our minds are influenced by the behaviour of sub-atomic particles but I believe that they are. Steven Hameroff and Roger Penrose offer a compelling theory as to the mechanism through which quantum fluctuations are amplified by the structure of neurons.

    What this would essentially mean is that there are parts of ourselves and our behaviour that are not determined by preceding events and that is fundamentally free. That these parts are initial conditions of the universe and so we are always directly connected with the creative act of the universe. So therfore, in a sense, there is a big bang inside of us all.

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    Re: The big bang inside of us all

    Robert Johnson was the initial conditions

    Jimi was the big bang inside us all

    We are all the

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    Re: The big bang inside of us all

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxmiLHLMjkA"]YouTube- the big bang's victory against materialism * harun yahya *[/ame]


    the bigbang is mentioned in the Quran before 1400 years..


    but beware..many who may misguide you to the truth.. you have your own mind to think...



    Allah said in Surah Al-Anbiya (Prophets Chapter):

    يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يَشْفَعُونَ إِلاَّ لِمَنْ ارْتَضَى وَهُمْ مِنْ خَشْيَتِهِ مُشْفِقُونَ
    [21:29] He knows what is before them and what is behind them[1882], and they intercede not except for him whom He approves, and they act cautiously for fear of Him.

    وَمَنْ يَقُلْ مِنْهُمْ إِنِّي إِلَهٌ مِنْ دُونِهِ فَذَلِكَ نَجْزِيهِ جَهَنَّمَ كَذَلِكَ نَجْزِي الظَّالِمِينَ
    [21:30] And whosoever of them should say, ‘I am a God beside Him,’ him shall We requite with Hell. Thus do We requite the wrongdoers.[1883]

    أَوَلَمْ يَرَى الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنْ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ

    [21:31] Do not the disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass[1884], then We opened them out? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

    وَجَعَلْنَا فِي الأَرْضِ رَوَاسِيَ أَنْ تَمِيدَ بِهِمْ وَجَعَلْنَا فِيهَا فِجَاجًا سُبُلاً لَعَلَّهُمْ يَهْتَدُونَ
    [21:32] And We have made in the earth firm mountains lest it should quake[1885] with them; and We have made therein wide pathways, that they may be rightly guided.

    وَجَعَلْنَا السَّمَاءَ سَقْفًا مَحْفُوظًا وَهُمْ عَنْ آيَاتِهَا مُعْرِضُونَ
    [21:33] And We have made the heaven a roof, well protected[1886]; yet they turn away from its Signs.

    وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ كُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ
    [21:34] And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon[1886A], each gliding along in its orbit.

    وَمَا جَعَلْنَا لِبَشَرٍ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ الْخُلْدَ أَفَإِيْنْ مِتَّ فَهُمْ الْخَالِدُونَ
    [21:35] We granted not everlasting life to any human being before thee. If then thou shouldst die, shall they live here for ever?[1887]

    كُلُّ نَفْسٍ ذَائِقَةُ الْمَوْتِ وَنَبْلُوكُمْ بِالشَّرِّ وَالْخَيْرِ فِتْنَةً وَإِلَيْنَا تُرْجَعُونَ
    [21:36] Every soul shall taste of death; and We prove you with evil and good by way of trial. And to Us shall you be returned.

    وَإِذَا رَآكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِنْ يَتَّخِذُونَكَ إِلاَّ هُزُوًا أَهَذَا الَّذِي يَذْكُرُ آلِهَتَكُمْ وَهُمْ بِذِكْرِ الرَّحْمَنِ هُمْ كَافِرُونَ

    [21:37] And when the disbelievers see thee, they only make a jest of thee. They say: ‘Is this the one who makes an evil mention[1887A] of your gods?’ While it is they themselves who reject with disdain the mention of the Gracious God.


    truth never misguides!!!

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    Re: The big bang inside of us all

    Quote Originally Posted by Khattab View Post
    but beware..many who may misguide you to the truth.. you have your own mind to think...
    I wouldn't mind being misguided to the truth.
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    Re: The big bang inside of us all

    I had no idea that mountains were there to stop earthquakes, and that they all have easily-traversed natural pathways. NOW I KNOW.

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    Re: The big bang inside of us all

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMono View Post
    I wouldn't mind being misguided to the truth.
    no worries... We have minds to think... thanks..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mwezzi View Post
    I had no idea that mountains were there to stop earthquakes, and that they all have easily-traversed natural pathways. NOW I KNOW.
    Thanks for this point of view...

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    Last edited by Khattab; 8th February 2010 at 6:25pm. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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