Why is caley crap (Listening to the Caley Anthem!!) - Page 7

Captain Cripplepants · 9th August 2006, 12:00am

Tis second only to Stirling for Psychology, n I wasn't movin there!

Glasgow for Psychology on other hand? Been using same material for 20 year from what I know.

Glad to see they keep up high standards of the past though. Shame they don't think to come into the present tho.

Jen-Y · 9th August 2006, 12:30pm

I also love caley but i understand its reputation. People do seem to do mediocre courses just because they never really knew what the wanted to do but know they dont want to work full time. My course is a bit more specific(fashion business), i actually WANTED to do it for years and i love it. I had the grades to get into glasgow or strathclyde but whats the point in going there just to say i go there? Zero.

hotblonde · 9th August 2006, 12:38pm

Like every higher education institution, each has their merits. Strathclyde is excellent for physics and pharmacy, Caley is good for health (radiography, OT, etc) Glasgow is excellent for science & medicine. I've only named a few examples, but you choose the institute that best serves your course needs (if you can that is). I've got a lot of issues with how Caley conducts itself as a university e.g. resits, etc but then again I have issues with Glasgow and the other extreme in this regard. Students go thru' a tough time and are subjected to similar pressures no matter which uni/college they opt for...comes down to the student really and how well they want to do and how far they want to take it.

p.s. never thought I'd be defending Caley in a million years either

spoonie · 9th August 2006, 1:52pm

this was one of those threads that you know instantly is gonna be a lot of shite, yet you read right through till the end! one thing i did notice tho, was that the original poster doesn't mention anything about glasgow uni in his/her first post. there then follows a number of responses which slag off glasgow uni, before mosh2thegrave admits studying there. now, i've heard it said plenty of times that there's a snobbery associated with glasgow uni students and although i have seen this, it's been occasional and isolated incidents, more often than not for banter purposes rather than genuine snobbery.

there's also a bit of a similar perception among glasgow students that a similar snobbery exists with edinburgh students, founded in truth or otherwise.

so what i was wondering here is do those who study at other institutions genuinely believe that students at glasgow think they're better than people who study at cally/strathclyde? or is it, as i suspect, an inferiority complex on behalf of the students at institutions which are traditionally ranked lower in league tables, etc.

i'm kind of getting at the point that traditionally glasgow has been ranked higher than strathclyde and cally overall as an institution, perhaps due to its age more than anything else, and there's a percieved snobbery among glasgow students by the others, with the same perception among glasgow students of the higher rated edinburgh uni.

i ask this because glasgow uni is excelling in bringing in students from non-traditional backgrounds and first-time students from families in comparison with its russell group (a group of research-led institutions) counterparts and we have 45% of our students from greater glasgow, yet there is still a perception among certain groups that glasgow is snobby or above them which needs to be addressed if the University is to be succesful in the future.

/x

p.s. before people come back with a barrage of comments about how business studies is better at strathclyde, etc. etc. i'm just talking about the broad picture of the institutions as a whole.

StuntGirl · 9th August 2006, 2:21pm

I recently graduated in Media and Communication at Caley, and turned down unconditional offers from Edinburgh and Southhampton to go there and I'm so glad I did. When I was accepted (because they would only give me a conditional offer, so much for being easier to get into!) Caley's Media course was the most difficult to get into in Scotland, and throughout my studying there, they poured millions into the department so we could use top of the range equipment.

As an aside s freidn of mine was doing film and television studies at glasgow, and another one was doing media at Edinburgh, and what was on their essential reading lists? Media Policy, by one of my lecturers at Caley. Caley has some really astute minds both working and studying there, and I find it appalling that people can have so much snobbery towards it.

Caley rules! :P

corky · 28th August 2006, 9:49pm

I love this post.

corky · 31st December 2006, 3:20pm

I still love this post.

Fallenblackrose · 29th January 2007, 10:32pm

For my course its fair to say Caley is the better of the Unis in glasgow, as their biomedics course is approved by the HPC whereas the other two unis do not have approved courses which means after leaving uni you cannot get a job in a hospital lab, you have to do yet another year of...erm something. Paisley does an approved course but after visiting each uni i though caley seemed to have the better labs and lecturers

endless psych · 29th January 2007, 10:36pm

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Originally Posted by CraigStuckIn'92

I think i'm going to Cry

The Caley uni (polytechnic) is what you make of it, i have recently started to appreciate the place a lot more. No degree from anywhere is worth a lot these days. Going to Caley suits my work ethic of not doing a lot of work. However most of the people i know that go to caley are pretty intellegent and seem more clued up than their Glasgow Uni Counterparts.

Wishful thinking that I reckon

University of Glasgow ftw!

(Caly's considerd very good for its post grad stuff but its undergrad not so much... - only forensic psychology course accredited in Scotland as far as I recall... Also optometry or something similar postgrad course really, really highly regarded.)

Fallenblackrose · 29th January 2007, 10:43pm

I think people need to stop being so stuck up when it comes to what university you go to, a lot of them are good for different reasons, and fail in other aspects, i say you just go to the one that suits you best (and that you can get into lolz)and not what people say is the "best" uni. Glasgow and Strathclyde are good unis but for what i want they are teh suxzorz

endless psych · 29th January 2007, 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by Fallenblackrose

I think people need to stop being so stuck up when it comes to what university you go to, a lot of them are good for different reasons, and fail in other aspects, i say you just go to the one that suits you best (and that you can get into lolz)and not what people say is the "best" uni. Glasgow and Strathclyde are good unis but for what i want they are teh suxzorz

It would be nice aye. But in real terms (for the majority of employers of graduates with non-specialist degree (ie not in a field where its important to know which universitys are "actually" good and not "traditionally" good) a degree from Glasgow, Edinburgh or St. Andrews will be considered more impressive then a degree from Caly.

Fallenblackrose · 29th January 2007, 11:03pm

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Originally Posted by endless psych

It would be nice aye. But in real terms (for the majority of employers of graduates with non-specialist degree (ie not in a field where its important to know which universitys are "actually" good and not "traditionally" good) a degree from Glasgow, Edinburgh or St. Andrews will be considered more impressive then a degree from Caly.

Yeah i know, it's a shame things like that really matter, i mean yeah you do need better grades to get into some of the supposedly better uni's, but getting those better grades does sometimes depends on your environment and homelife. It just baws is all it is...its hairy baws. (this is why im going to caley im not a smarty that can argue)

endless psych · 29th January 2007, 11:11pm

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Originally Posted by Fallenblackrose

Yeah i know, it's a shame things like that really matter, i mean yeah you do need better grades to get into some of the supposedly better uni's, but getting those better grades does sometimes depends on your environment and homelife. It just baws is all it is...its hairy baws. (this is why im going to caley im not a smarty that can argue)

Tbh I'm not really for the Caly slagging in any other way then a bit of banter when its appropriate - however I do sometimes reckon that Uni's like Caly, Naiper and the like would better serve Scotlands Graduate population by not existing - but thats a kind of self serving intellectual snobbery based around the idea that if there are less graduates it will be easier for me to get a job

(Well that and sometimes spurious commentary about the more universities there are the more individual degrees are devalued)

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Originally Posted by Captain Cripplepants

Tis second only to Stirling for Psychology, n I wasn't movin there!

Glasgow for Psychology on other hand? Been using same material for 20 year from what I know.

Glad to see they keep up high standards of the past though. Shame they don't think to come into the present tho.

They changed almost the entire course structure and the materials a few years back like.

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Originally Posted by Captain Cripplepants

Tis second only to Stirling for Psychology, n I wasn't movin there!

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What Caly?

St Andrews is the top Scottish Uni for Psychology at the minute (5th in the UK) and Glasgow is joint 18th with Sussex (and the Second Scottish University in the list...)

Thats based on the times education tables btw.

There is another newspaper that does a similar thing but I can't remember which one it is.

Although I do remember that when I was choosing Universities it went Stirling, St. Andrews, Glasgow, Edinburgh for Psychology so its subject to change quite a fair bit...