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Old 17th March 2008, 7:23pm   #31
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

I've never had any real bother with Vista, bar that its counter-intuitive bullshit that is much worse than its predecessor.



And don't get me started on Office '07.
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Old 18th March 2008, 1:36pm   #32
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

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3.1 - Still used by parts of a certain large tax office in EK.
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NT - Stable, but too many things a home user'd want to do were so finicky as to make it impractical.
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Vista has been the most stable thing I've used yet and I'm using vista 64bit, though 2000 was magic. I really can't understand the slating vista is getting, it just works.
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Old 30th March 2008, 11:39pm   #33
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

so exactly why should anyone spend time and money reactivating a product that should actually respect the purchasers right to use without wasting time and effort and money?

You must be using vista home version or something. I am using Ultimate but have never had to reactivate when I change RAM etc
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

I agree with semp on window ME - it is the devils work

But currently ive dual botted my pc with vista and xp and no matter what one i use i get no problems at all
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And don't get me started on Office '07.
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

my new laptop has vista - i wanted to walk out of the shop with one and everyone said it'd take ages to get an XP one sorted - and so far i'm kinda "meh" about it.

took a while to get rid of most of the crap and i'm not done with that yet. it was something of a pain having to find out where to put my firefox and thunderbird profiles, all that stuff has moved, along with add/remove programs. lots and lots of those sorts of things to figure out - i'd say with Apple system revisions you have as many new things to learn but they tend to be easier to figure out without resorting to google.

i've had a few application crashes (including but not limited to () firefox and iTunes), and a few oddities have cropped up, for example two thirds of my itunes library hadn't actually been copied onto the new laptop's internal HD from my external disk, despite the computer thinking it had been. weird but now sorted.

SP1 is now installed though there's no obvious (to me) differences, and my main concern - the stability of my most important bit of software, Serato - seems to be appeased, it seems that when the computer has wireless enabled but isn't connected to a network, it causes glitches in Serato, but as soon as you're actually connected they disappear. i presume that turning wireless off altogether would also sort that, but i haven't yet figured out how

so all in all no worse than XP but no better either, is my two cents.
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

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What's wrong with office 2007????
Its a great advancement on 2003. Its stable, they fixed all the problems with outlook. I think you'll find theres a great deal of approval for 2007 out in the workplace. I would agree if you mentioned how incompatible it is with previous versions of Access but it has decent export features and you can run two versions anyway
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my new laptop has vista - i wanted to walk out of the shop with one and everyone said it'd take ages to get an XP one sorted - and so far i'm kinda "meh" about it.

took a while to get rid of most of the crap and i'm not done with that yet. it was something of a pain having to find out where to put my firefox and thunderbird profiles, all that stuff has moved, along with add/remove programs. lots and lots of those sorts of things to figure out - i'd say with Apple system revisions you have as many new things to learn but they tend to be easier to figure out without resorting to google.

i've had a few application crashes (including but not limited to () firefox and iTunes), and a few oddities have cropped up, for example two thirds of my itunes library hadn't actually been copied onto the new laptop's internal HD from my external disk, despite the computer thinking it had been. weird but now sorted.

SP1 is now installed though there's no obvious (to me) differences, and my main concern - the stability of my most important bit of software, Serato - seems to be appeased, it seems that when the computer has wireless enabled but isn't connected to a network, it causes glitches in Serato, but as soon as you're actually connected they disappear. i presume that turning wireless off altogether would also sort that, but i haven't yet figured out how

so all in all no worse than XP but no better either, is my two cents.
Most lappys have a physical switch on the side to switch off the wireless, as it conserves the battery. Failing that just rightclick network properties and disable the wireless from there.

Firefox/thunerbird profiles are not all that different from xp, jsut the folder is named a slightly different place.
Add/remove programs is now titled 'programs and features' in your control panel.

One thing Vista does have that will make me love it always though, if you're a sensible person who always has filetype extensions visible, when you f2 to renam a file, it automaticvally ONLY highlights the filename and not the extension. Unf unf unf.
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What's wrong with office 2007????
Its a great advancement on 2003. Its stable, they fixed all the problems with outlook. I think you'll find theres a great deal of approval for 2007 out in the workplace. I would agree if you mentioned how incompatible it is with previous versions of Access but it has decent export features and you can run two versions anyway
Nah man, totally disagree.

There's another thread about Office 12 though!
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Old 31st March 2008, 5:00pm   #40
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

I'm not a fan of Vista, I prefer XP. I've tweaked my XP to the max and it is running so smoothly.

About to duel boot with Ubuntu though for a bit of fun.
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

Yeah I have XP and Ubutnu dual boot on my PC in the house.
I'll use XP if I'm coding (.NET stuff) but Ubuntu for most other things.
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Re: Once again vista Fails To impress

There's nothing I need Windows for, so I didn't even bother dual booting, Ubuntu all the way here.

Best of both worlds: the smug satisfaction of a stable and secure non-Microsoft OS, and the relief that I'm not in the same camp as iAl.
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And don't get me started on Office '07.
I actually like Office 07, its quite decent once you hide the ribbon and add all the tools you need to the bar under the ribbon.

I hate Vista though...
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