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31st July 2002, 2:16pm
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#1 | | dis-member
Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Glasgow City Ce
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| Graffiti...
Thoughts on graf anyone? | 
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31st July 2002, 2:47pm
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#2 | | dis-member
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| Anyone involved in Graffiti? or interested in it? | |
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31st July 2002, 3:03pm
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#3 | | Who Cares?
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Shitwork Central
Posts: 7,094
| As in drawing on walls?
You ain't seen graffiti till you've been to Paris. It's like art maaan.
Here it's just gimps writing their names with black markers. | |
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31st July 2002, 3:11pm
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#4 | | Gimme boobie-doos
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glasgow
Posts: 617
| Yeah... there are places in the world where graffiti is stunning... and that's when I'd say it's art. It's all to do with style/content/location, I'd say... if there's some real talent on display up there, and it's actually saying something, and it's in the right place, I'm all for it - especially on a large scale.
Unfortunately, most of the time here it's just cheap vandalism... nothing artistic about it, just some random scribbles on walls. And it's best kept for the right places... Glasgow, for example, has a lot of amazing old historical buildings, day-glo paint over them would just be an insult.
I'm not too clued in on the subject, never really "tagged" in my life (and I'd be shit at it anyway)... but I do think graffiti can be serious art... there's some amazing talent on them there walls.
The problem will always be though, who decides what's art and who decides what's vandalism...? | |
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31st July 2002, 3:17pm
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#5 | | dis-member
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| I am into a lot of the french kinda stuff u r talking about Staley especially the Stencil side of things...In glasgow there are a lot of taggers running about making a mess...however there are a lot of talented people in Glasgow the stuff is just well hidden... | |
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31st July 2002, 3:19pm
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#6 | | I hate your band SuperMod
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Slacktivism
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| Tagging is always vandalism, in my opinion.
Art on walls is another matter - murals, graf, whatever.
Graf has become shorthand for a particular style (or range of styles).
Edinburgh seems to have better graf guys than Glasgow does, by far. And, erm... why are they always guys?
I guess my final say on the subject is...
Check out my buddy Brian's site. He's the best graf writer around Scotland these days. www.akaelph.com
More on his next (and first) exhibition at http://www.outoftheblue.org.uk/eexhi.shtml.
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31st July 2002, 3:47pm
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| i actually like the "mess" taggers make...it is all part and parcel of an urban environment however there is no skill or talent involved...for the most part the taggers in glasgow are all about becoming infamous, americanised everything and macho posturing...
There is a lot of good work in Glasgow if u know where to look. | |
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31st July 2002, 5:13pm
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#8 | | Dizzy Bint
Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ayrshire
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| In Edinburgh there is a lot of really good graffiti which is more of an artform than vandalism.
It would be good to see some real art being graffited onto walls instead of tags and slogans.
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31st July 2002, 10:11pm
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#9 | | ZOOP ZOOP ZOOP!
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 308
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| i really like the stencilled stuff, i used stuff like that in ma portfolio a wee bit an i intend to use it more.
__________________ your face burns my eyes. i kinda like it. 
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31st July 2002, 10:16pm
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#10 | | Auch emo für Sie!
Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OlD WorLd
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| Yeah I used spray paint and did a kinda small graffiti piece for ma higher art folio. It wasn't too good, but it woz cool trying to do it.
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31st July 2002, 10:17pm
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#11 | | head over heels
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: www.babyart.nu
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| i used to be huge into the scene...u wanna see good stuff from glasgow go to geurilla183.com...if its still there...some amazin glasgow stuff by mac, real, cam...none of them write in places ur likley to see unless u go looking. also glasgowgraffiti.com is cam's site and there are some good examples of talented glasgow writers..also nigma.com is amazing for the whole uk scene. nothing ever beats new york tho...
am goin to stop now...i could go on for hours, seriously
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31st July 2002, 10:19pm
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#12 | | Troll Banned
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Athena
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| im into it and i cant stop it...lol... once u start u cant stop....
its a kinda way of saying how u feel..... its not jus writing ur name... its aRt | |
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31st July 2002, 10:23pm
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#13 | | head over heels
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: www.babyart.nu
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| what do u write?
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31st July 2002, 10:24pm
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#14 | | Troll Banned
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| cant tell u that... coz ppl might be after me...... | |
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31st July 2002, 10:26pm
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#15 | | head over heels
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: www.babyart.nu
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| hahaha, pm it to me...
i seriously love graff...can't write for shit tho, although do have some good sketches, but i would never go and actually buy paint and be out spraying in the middle of the night.
GO ON! PM ME!!
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