Permanent Contraception

[JennyPiccolo]

because women don't really have the choice all the time.

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by djbarry

Did you not state in another thread that you were in fact a Pharmacist, so surely you would know the relevent information, otherwise you wouldn't be doing the job you have stated you do, or have you been so out of your head with your gp, lawer and art teacher friends that you have missed this information when it was issued to the chemist shop you work in.

I think you'll find that information regarding sterilisation procedures aren't actually
provided to community pharmacies as the 'Norm'.
Its usually supplied to the Hospital/Research areas of pharmacy first, although i'm sure there'll be an article about Essure somewhere in the pharmaceutical journal. I'd be probably be quicker accessing my companies web site.

[Obsidian]

Why do folk have kids anyway?


·To have the experience of being a parent
·To carry on the blood line
·To have that parent child bond
·For pleasure
·Status
·Responsibility
·Worth
·Power
·Achievement

·To have the experience of being a parent
That is a pretty long experience to me, personally I would rather just be someone’s baby sitter for the night, that’s about all the personal experience I need when it comes to children.

None of these reasons are reason enough for me to want children!
Wanting children is an almost completely selfish thing, other than only having them for your partner!
Whats the matter with wanting to be selfish for yourself?
Wanting to spend all your hard earned cash on yourself rather than a child?
Wanting your spare time to spend on yourself rather than children?
Wanting to dedicate your life to your profession rather than motherhood?
Wanting to be able to pack your bags and jump on a plane to the Bahamas
without having to pack a wealth of kiddie paraphernalia and children to boot!

No thats not the life for me either, i like my independance too much to give it all up for
a couple of screaming sprogs..... No Deal!

[Foxglove]

Having children is now something we are privileged enough to have a choice over. It is only recently that humans have had any relatively reliable forms of contraception and until the 20th Century, women were owned by their husbands by law and had very little choice in something we find so fundementally important in our society - whether we choose to have children or not.

I agree with Coruscate here. If a person genuinely does not want children and a condom splits then it is surprising they do not take the morning after pill to ensure they do not fall pregnant. Witch - maybe you subconsciously did want a child after all, despite how you had felt prior to becoming pregnant?

I respect anyone's choice to have a child or not. That is not to say I find it easy to accept people not taking responsibility for themselves and risk having sex without contraception without bearing in mind the consequences.

[Devastator]

This thread completely baffles me. I'm not saying YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I just... don't get it.

[Sebb™]

Which side is wrong, the pro-babies or the other ones?

[Devastator]

The side that I don't understand the viewpoint of *ahem* is the not wanting babies side.

[Sebb™]

I don't see why you can't understand it. They don't want kids, they have no desire. I pretty much feel that way. How much do you want kids?

[Devastator]

All I want to do in life is have kids, and work with kids. I am probably the most maternal person in the world - it just seems like such a foreign idea to me.

[Sebb™]

Well some people aren't maternal, or paternal. Why don't you have kids yet?

[hotblonde]

Giving birth is a privilege always I think. It's something, that as women we can do and men can't...we are perpetuating the species here girls...man's reason for existance meanwhile is bottled Altho' they are very handy when we require someone to cook for us (oh and sex as well I s'pose).
How sexist and general is that!?
However, I totally accept that some people just don't want kids.

[Puppy]

I dont want kids at the moment, I enjoy my life with my partner as it is, thats not to say that i wont change my mind at some point in the future as I am startign to get a wee bit broody and then give myself a quick mental slap, Im not really ready at the moment

Babysitting is perfect for me at the moment, Im quite lucky that anyone I know with kids, their kids are well behaved and not screaming wee hellions, I get to hand them back after a few hours

But generally kids make me want to smack fuck out of the parents. Its not a toddlers faultif they are running about mental because thier parents dont give a fuck. I appreciate kids throw a strop now and then, but thats in a different league to the nightmare weans I see on a daily basis. Nightmare weans because thier parents are lazy self absorbed arseholes.

Anytime Ive been at risk of pregnancy from a splitcondom Ive taken the Morning after pill. I also am rigourous about using back up protection when on antibitoics and on the pill, and if Im late with my pill for whatever reason I follow the instruction/blurb on thepacket and use back up portection again. Its not a chance Im willing to take.

Having children is a choice but for some people they need to have a good hard look at thier choices. Like people whos main aim in life is to have children because its expected not because they want to, Im talking about people that I went to school with who got pregnant as soon as they could, left school and had kid after kid? Why? because "Ah puir love weans, I've always wantedto be a mum" and like the halfwit I went to school with who purposely only slept with black men because "ah want a wee half caste wean" (her choice of phrase not mines) "cause I think thier hairs jist mental"

WTF?

[Purplerose]

Originally Posted by Devastator

All I want to do in life is have kids, and work with kids. I am probably the most maternal person in the world - it just seems like such a foreign idea to me.

I've been told by people that I would make a good mum, that I appear maternal to them because I tend to look out for folk and care alot about people. And yes, I'm usually great with kids, I have even looked after friends kids in the past and enjoyed it, I even taught one of them to say her first word.

The thing is we have a choice now and it's not like the world is running out of people any time soon, far from it, so I feel no need to make a personal contribution.

[Kath]

Originally Posted by feelion

.... when shes 16 i'll be 45 and very likely embarrass her! our birthdays are only a couple of weeks apart so when she's celebrating her 21st ill be the grand old age of 50! scary thought for ME! i dont know how im going to be able to relate to her when she gets older.

Just wanted to say that my dad and I celebrated our 60th and 21st birthdays in the same week and we are the best of friends. My dad and I are exceptionally close, have a great relationship, and so much mutual respect. And I was the first person to make him cry in front of people

Originally Posted by mr_brownstone

that's the best reason to have kids!!!!

I can jsut see it now. You are going to drive that wean up the wall sir. You dont even need to do anything to embarrass her, just being there will likely do it Kidding, obviously, LOVE YOU!

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Purplerose

it's not like the world is running out of people any time soon, far from it, so I feel no need to make a personal contribution.

That is 'The' perfect statement!
What about all the children out there that are parentless?
Why in this day and age when the world is full of unwanted babies, do we in the west spend thousands and thousands of Dollars/Pounds on ivf treatments, when we have difficulties conceiving, just to enable us to have our own little bundles of joy, when there are countries with orphanages overflowing with children?
Is that not the ultimate selfishness?
I think so!
Angelina Jolie always said she would never bring a baby into the world when there was already
so many other babies that needed a mother more...
Funny how she changed her mind too...